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Apr. 28th, 2011 09:28 am

Mermaids!

dwgm: Kimi Birds (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
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My sympathy and good thoughts to all who have been in the path of the bad weather down south. *hugs you all*

On a lighter note, here are some more PotC4 posters, and if you go to the original article there are great big high rez versions.







I know that [livejournal.com profile] djarum99 and [livejournal.com profile] 0nthe0therhand (among others, perhaps?) recently posted new OST videos, too, but LJ is not letting me access them to repost here at this time, wtf? Anyway, many interesting bits in those, well worth checking out. I have to say, the Jack/Angelica one makes me a little sad, J/E shipper that I've always been, both from comments within the video and from what I can see of Angelica's character and the relationship between her and Jack. I'm hoping there will be something to latch onto that will inspire, but I'm not really seeing it, so far. However, on May 7th (or 8th, really, we won't get back to our computers until after midnight, I'm sure) I'll be able to communicate further thoughts on this score (REDCARPETEVENTATDISNEYLANDOMG!!!!).
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Date: 2011-04-28 04:51 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] lilouche007.livejournal.com
i love syrena !
Date: 2011-04-28 05:29 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I'm really looking forward to the mermaid bits of the movie.
Date: 2011-04-28 05:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-28 05:04 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] corrielle.livejournal.com
Wow! These are gorgeous... new kid's not bad looking, either. ;-) He's got a familiar kind of earnestness about him... *grin* This ought to be fun.

I'm still debating about whether or not I want to go on the 7th. On the one hand, I remember all of the exhaustion and the heat and the crowds... and on the other I remember two of my Best Days Ever. We'll see how it goes.

Either way, I'm looking forward to hearing about YOUR take on things!
Date: 2011-04-28 05:27 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
On the one hand, I remember all of the exhaustion and the heat and the crowds... and on the other I remember two of my Best Days Ever.

I know exactly what you mean. I think to get a good spot on Main Street you'll have to be in line all night, and then there's that long day of sitting on the curb to hold your spot, and then standing for about the last five hours of the event (with mobs of latecomers shoving from behind, too). I certainly don't regret going, the AWE red carpet was a lot of fun in so many ways and the DMC one was even better, but if I hadn't been able to buy a ticket and actually walk the carpet and go see the movie I wouldn't have gone this time.
Date: 2011-04-28 05:25 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] whensheflies.livejournal.com
I am so on board for this. Mermaids for the win!
Date: 2011-04-28 05:28 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
The mermaids will be one of the most interesting things about this one, I think.
Date: 2011-04-28 05:41 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] doolabug.livejournal.com
AWESOME!! Thanks for sharing, and I can't wait to hear about your red carpet experience!!
Date: 2011-04-28 05:49 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
It's going to be so much fun. I'll take lots of pix (can do so until we sit down to watch the movie).

I do love mermaids!
Date: 2011-04-28 05:45 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com
I hoped for posters of them! ^^
Date: 2011-04-28 05:47 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Yes, and these are really beautiful, too. Getting so excited!!
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Date: 2011-04-28 06:35 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Elizabeth - Warrior)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I wonder if Geoffrey Rush has ever read/written any PotC fanfiction? ;-)

Well, yeah, and what the heck was Elizabeth supposed to be, even in canon? Duh.

I do think the movie will be really fun, it's just that I'm a sucker for romance and Angelica may not have enough depth or soft edges to make that possible in the sort of way I'd be inclined to explore. But we'll see. In any case I'm getting more excited about the mermaid thing, love these new posters!!!
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Date: 2011-04-28 09:59 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com
I think part of what I like about the good captain is that his romantic history is pretty much unknown. It makes him all the more mysterious and gives me much more scope for making stuff up!
My point of view exactly. I love Mystery!Jack. And for Anamaria - I'd love to see her again, I feel it's unfair she disappeared with not a word of explanation, but on the other hand I fear what could the canon do with her... All in all - more well written Anamaria fics, more happy me. :)
Date: 2011-04-29 07:17 am (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Mystery!Jack is certainly the ideal, as far as the movies go -- leaves us so much more room for speculation. It would be lovely if Anamaria came back, even briefly. It could happen, you never know.
Date: 2011-04-28 08:43 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] florencia7.livejournal.com
These posters are lovely!

Aw & I have to say I am glad that I'm not the only one feeling sad over the Jack/Angelica featurette (that I haven't even watched, actually LOL)

I'm so happy for you about the red carpet event! :D This is going to be so awesome! ♥
Date: 2011-04-28 08:52 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
No, you are not the only one. But I'm a great one for OFC's, as you probably noticed, and I think it may be like that, Angelica will be one of the many women from Jack's past. I don't think she's supposed to be a recurring character, certainly. OST and any subsequent films are supposed to be stand-alones. But I suppose that could change, if she's popular enough. Anyway, yay for more Jack! It does look like an exciting movie.
Date: 2011-04-28 09:24 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] hereswith.livejournal.com
Definitely not the only one (and I haven't seen it either)!
Date: 2011-04-29 08:38 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] florencia7.livejournal.com
That's so good to know! ^^
Date: 2011-04-28 09:23 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] hereswith.livejournal.com
I'm not touching the J/A video with a ten-foot pole, as it were, I think that's best for my peace of mind, though it does make me sad that Geoffrey Rush said something like that. But yay, mermaids!! And awesome red carpet event will be awesome :-)
Date: 2011-04-28 09:42 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I'll let you know any details you want to hear that very night. *hugs*

In other news, I'm almost done with Ch. 3 -- may send it a little later. :)

ETA: It seemed to me that Rush was saying something they maybe suggested he say. I'm hoping that whoever had the idea wasn't thinking clearly.
Edited Date: 2011-04-28 09:46 pm (UTC)
Date: 2011-04-29 03:40 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] honorat.livejournal.com
I also think that it depends on how you define the word "match." I don't think it means "equal." I think it means "cut from the same cloth" and also that the relationship between Jack and Angelica is part of the central plot of the movie. Though I am sure as can be that Jack is NEVER going to get the girl in the end! :D

Elizabeth and Jack were certainly "peas in a pod" as well, but Elizabeth was not a pirate in the first movie, and arguably never entirely or only one even in the others. And since canon pairs Will and Elizabeth, Rush can be forgiven for not linking Jack with Elizabeth as a couple.

Anamaria was a pirate and certainly capable of holding her own with Jack, but she was a very different character--definitely not from the same pod or cloth--and her relationship with Jack was very peripheral.

So much of our perceptions of PotC characters have been formed by fandom that it does sometimes seem strange that everyone doesn't know about it.

I interpreted Rush's comment to mean that Angelica is to be like Jack--devious and clever and thinking circles around others and charming and mouthy and beautiful (and knows it) and secretive and capable of treachery and manipulative and lucky in everything but love and a good person at heart, perhaps inconveniently so. Also she shares a past with Jack and is nearer his age than any of the other PotC leading ladies. His match. I actually really enjoyed the snark in the J/A clip--but then snark is my meat :D
Date: 2011-04-29 08:31 am (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
And since canon pairs Will and Elizabeth, Rush can be forgiven for not linking Jack with Elizabeth as a couple.

I agree that it may not have been something he even thought about. On the other hand, I think a large part of canon points to Elizabeth's pirate heart, and it's evident even in the first movie, in spite of her antecedents.

As far as OST being a return to the spirit of the first movie, I think the-powers-that-be proved with DMC and AWE that they didn't get at all what made CotBP so much fun for everyone. I'm hopeful that Jack/Angelica will be a fun pairing, though, at least for the duration of OST, and I'm really looking forward to the bits filmed in England, too.

Date: 2011-04-29 04:13 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com
*sneaks shyly in between stern Sparrabethians* I second [livejournal.com profile] honorat. I'm not anti-Angelica, in fact I hope her to be a great character. All depends on Penelope's performance now, for me. However, *cough* Jack's cloth is absolutely unique *cough*. And [livejournal.com profile] honorat's last words are the wonderful and perfect characterization. Of Jack. :) Only and solely, for me. *hastily sneaks out*
Date: 2011-04-29 05:10 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (J/E - At World's End)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
lol! I'm not anti-Angelica, either, and I don't really have any doubts about Penelope's performance, she's a great actress. What I'm concerned about is the material she's given to work with, whether the character is merely a comic foil for Jack or one that's human, with the broad range of behaviors and attributes that the word implies. The trailers etc. hint that the latter is the case, but making assumptions based on trailers has proven unwise in the past.

[livejournal.com profile] honorat is of the brilliance, and her vision of Jack has always rung true for me. I am only one of many who long for more of Crossing and Worthy of His Steel, not to mention any other piratey offerings she's inspired to produce.
Date: 2011-04-29 06:36 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com
whether the character is merely a comic foil for Jack or one that's human
With this I agree. And the same bothers me as to Syrena & Philip. I do want to like them, cause I think there is potential in their characters and story, but this still can misfire. Well, we'll see.

I am only one of many who long for more of Crossing
Definitely. :)
Date: 2011-05-01 06:54 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] hereswith.livejournal.com
It's very much a matter of definition :-) I wouldn't expect Geoffrey Rush to link Jack with Elizabeth as a couple, and that's not how I interpreted it either. For me, "match" is more like "equal", and doesn't necessarily mean that the persons are alike or in a relationship. In that sense, I would say that the word could apply to both Elizabeth and Ana, though I agree that Ana had a less prominent role, so I was primarily thinking of Elizabeth. And what irked me was that it seemed Rush was dismissing Elizabeth out of hand. Then again, I still haven't seen the clips, and only went by the comments above.

And I'm all for snark too, the more the better, if it's between characters I like. Unfortunately, I've never really liked Penélope Cruz, so I find it hard to muster any excitement over Angelica. I might change my mind after having seen the whole movie, of course. Or not.
Date: 2011-05-01 07:03 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Elizabeth - Warrior)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I find it hard to muster any excitement over Angelica.

I find the bits of trailer with her and Jack very interesting, but I'm not sure how that'll pan out in the movie. For me it depends on the script they're working with, and what kind of character she ultimately turns out to be. (And in a week, we'll know!!!!)
Date: 2011-04-29 03:53 am (UTC)

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From: [identity profile] djarum99.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] honorat has expressed my thoughts exactly, about Annamaria and Elizabeth and the Angelica/Jack dynamic. And no, I doubt that Captain Jack Sparrow will "get the girl" :-)

I love the snark between Angelica and Jack that has been revealed so far, and of course there's a long line of love interest from Jack's past, at least in my head. And of course I'm a dyed in the wool J/E shipper - I've got the fandom scars to prove it. I do have mixed feelings about the Jack/Angelica interactions, but I suspect I'll enjoy them anyway, simply because they fit, in a handwavy sort of fashion, with my own fanon. It won't interfere with my POTC universe, if that makes any sense (I just had oral surgery, and Percocet! for the first time. I'm a little muzzy). I can understand the apprehension, though.

But, there's piratey!fierce!conniving!Jack in there! And Barbossa, and Gibbs, and Ian McShane as Blackbeard. I hope everyone can take heart, and take themselves off to the theater with high hopes.

Have a fabulous pre-birthday celebration at the premiere! I'm so happy for you ♥
Date: 2011-04-29 08:44 am (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I agree that the Angelica/Jack snark is entertaining, and OST is said to be a standalone, so hopefully it won't interfere with previous canon and our many fic universes based thereon. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the movie, of course.

Sympathy on the oral surgery, hope you feel better very very soon.
Date: 2011-04-30 01:52 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] bombazzinedoll.livejournal.com
I'm really, really excited about Angelica tbh. give me all the strong, smart, wiley, sexy women pirates, pleeeeeease, there truly aren't enough
Date: 2011-04-30 03:04 pm (UTC)

ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (J/E - At World's End)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
there truly aren't enough

This is true, and I'm really happy that they've thrown that element into the movie. It'll be fun to see what they do with it, though hopefully they'll do it without tearing down previous canon.
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