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It was a pirate's life for me last week, meeting my buddies [livejournal.com profile] tndixie and [livejournal.com profile] compassrose7577 in the real OC for a few days of beach, fabulous food, and piratey fun at Disneyland. We played in the parks and Saturday night we attended the world premier of On Stranger Tides, walking the same black carpet that the stars did. It was an amazing night, and I have lots of pix, just haven't had time to get them ready to post yet as there was a big party for me (!!) on Sunday when we got home and after that I was too dead tired. So pix tonight, and if there is anything you want to know about the movie, ask away!

Speaking of pix, though, [livejournal.com profile] corrielle went and stood on the sidelines at the black carpet event and has an entertaining report and lots of pics here, go check it out! She got way closer to the stars than I did, I must say.

*hugs you all*

Date: 2011-05-10 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com
I'm so envious of you, but so glad that you got to attend the premiere! {{{hugs}}}

Is it GOOD? Is Jack lovely? Is it less handwavy than AWE?

EEEEE PIRATES!!!!! K and I are going to see it at the IMAX, a week tomorrow. EEEEEE! ARRRRRRRRR!

Date: 2011-05-11 05:26 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
OMG it was SO much fun, wish you could have joined us, too!


Is it GOOD? Is Jack lovely? Is it less handwavy than AWE?
It is very good, I think, and it can stand alone, I don’t believe one would even need to have seen any of the previous three to enjoy it. There are only very minor references to the other movies, and I think the action and characterizations allow an understanding of the relationships. The plot is typically complicated in detail, but that’s part of the fun, of course. It all makes sense, in the way CotBP did.

Jack is wonderful, and there’s a LOT of him, he really carries the film.

EEEEE PIRATES!!!!! K and I are going to see it at the IMAX, a week tomorrow. EEEEEE! ARRRRRRRRR!
Excellent! I may go to the El Capitan for the midnight show on the 20th, which is when it comes out here, though I’ll have to work at least a half day on Friday (before I go see it again – squeee!!).

Date: 2011-05-10 04:05 pm (UTC)
captaintish: (Potc -- Jack - new movie)
From: [personal profile] captaintish
Glad you had a good weekend!

Okay, I want all the details about the black ? carpet and pics and all that.

And about the movie, I want to know

-- Did you like it? Did you think it was good?

-- Is it a cliffhanger?

-- At the sneak peak thing at Disneyland, they said there is something about voodoo in the movie. That creeps me out, what's the deal?

-- Is Barbossa as awesome as he was in AWE?

Okay, that's it, I think, for now. I'm willing to wait for the rest. I just saw a new commercial last night that made me squee, and I have to say, with Lost over, not a lot makes me squee these days. :D

Date: 2011-05-11 05:41 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - FTW! by Sepira)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Glad you had a good weekend!
I had a fabulous five days, way too much fun, still so tired! Had dinner with some other friends last night, too, the fun hasn’t stopped yet.

Okay, I want all the details about the black ? carpet and pics and all that.
Next post. A very different experience than the previous two premiers, obviously, when I was sitting on the curb on Main Street, USA.

Did you like it? Did you think it was good?
Yes, and yes! Hopefully your mileage won’t vary too much. I really enjoyed it, though I have to say I really missed Will and Elizabeth, too. Thank God for fic.

Is it a cliffhanger?
Not as such. There are elements that can be continued and expanded – particularly the Pearl’s situation – but most could be dropped, or set aside for a later time and it would still make sense.

At the sneak peak thing at Disneyland, they said there is something about voodoo in the movie. That creeps me out, what's the deal?
Blackbeard is into the black magic voodoo thing, an element they got out of the novel, Tim Powers’ On Stranger Tides. He’s very scary and grim, and unlike Barbossa in the first story, or Davy Jones in #2 & #3, one feels virtually no sympathy for him, which I think makes him a less interesting character. It’s hard to see why his daughter Angelica cares for him enough to want to “save his soul” – it seems pretty hopeless. The voodoo is a bit scary, but on the whole I don’t think it’s any worse than the stuff we’ve seen in the other three, so no worries. There’s only one scene that squicked me at all, and I’m notoriously weak of stomach when it comes to violence.

Is Barbossa as awesome as he was in AWE?
YES!!!! In his Royal Navy Privateer persona he’s a purse made from a sow’s ear, so to speak, and hilariously so – God, I adore Geoffrey Rush!!! And in the end, well, he’s back, that’s all I can say. And his scenes with Jack are great, I was thinking “lj user="p0wdermonkey"> would LOVE this!” even as I watched.

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Date: 2011-05-11 05:42 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I'd really love to know about Jack's character ... Are there any of those man behind the mask moments? You know, the ones where he isn't acting like a drunk clown! ;) And what about the Angelica thing? Does/did Jack really have 'feelings' for her (and vice versa)? Can we look forward to any real romance involving the good captain?

Jack is fabulous, and it really seems to be a return to what his character was in CotBP. He is funny and clever and wonderfully appealing, and a very capable pirate, though he has a terrible foe in Blackbeard. His love/hate relationship with Angelica is very entertaining, it’s hard to tell if either of them really love each other, though Jack keeps saving her – she has a good heart under the pirate façade, unlike her father (and is he really her father? That’s a question…though why else would she care for Blackbeard if she wasn’t? Not a likeable man at all.) ‘Feelings’ may be too strong a word for what Jack felt/feels for her, he’s attracted to her and doesn’t trust her much more than an inch. We’ll have to look to fic for lasting romance, I don’t think we’ll find it in the movies.
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Date: 2011-05-10 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilouche007.livejournal.com
lucky you !!!

my questions

does jack kiss angelica? please tell me !!!
is jack in love with her (and vice versa) ?
is it a cliffhanger?

did you meet johnny ?

Date: 2011-05-11 05:47 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
does jack kiss angelica? please tell me !!!
Yes! Though what he says afterwards is rather hilariously ambiguous. Highlight for Extreme Spoiler: “I always wanted to do that!” he says – and is it because she’s an old flame or because she looks like a duplicate of him? (Very near the beginning of the movie she’s been impersonating him in order to recruit crew for the Queen Anne’s Revenge.)

is jack in love with her (and vice versa) ?

He may have had “feelings” for her, maybe still does – or “feelings” may be too strong a word. At least that’s what he claims. As for Angelica, it’s sort of the same situation, in reverse. The actors, writers, etc. did a nice job making their relationship “love/hate”, just as advertised.

is it a cliffhanger?

Not precisely, there are elements that may show up in the next film, issues that may or may not be resolved, but it’s not half a movie, the way DMC was.

did you meet johnny ?

No! I wasn’t anywhere near him. I was sitting way up on the west side of the theater (there were 3000 seats), though I could see the stage in front of the screen clearly and there was a big projection of the actors on the screen as they came out to greet the audience. He looked good, from what I could see, and happy to be there, happier than he seemed to be at the AWE premier. The closest I’ve been to him is when we came for the DMC premier in ’06 and he came over and signed a magazine cover for me, and spoke briefly with a little girl who was standing next to us.


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Date: 2011-05-10 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corrielle.livejournal.com
I'm SO glad you had a good time, and I can't wait to see your pictures!

I also wanted to say that even though that post you linked to is f-locked, I'll friend any PotC fan who wants to see it in a heartbeat.

Date: 2011-05-10 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whensheflies.livejournal.com
*raises hand*

I am a PotC fan and would like to see the pictures!

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Date: 2011-05-10 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whensheflies.livejournal.com
I don't want to know anything about the movie, so I need to get out of this post ASAP, but it sounds like you had a great time. Yay! I saw bits and pieces of Johnny and Penelope at the premiere on the local news. Wish I could have been there!

Date: 2011-05-11 05:51 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I did have a great time, too much fun. I wish you could have been there, too!

Date: 2011-05-10 06:06 pm (UTC)
sunshine304: (PotC Jack YAY)
From: [personal profile] sunshine304
The most important question is indeed: Do you think it's good? Is it really more like CotBP, as Jerry et al. said?

I'd also like to know whether you felt the characters ... well, were IC. *g* How does that thing with Jack and Angelica work - chemistry?

Like 0nthe0therhand I'd like to know about the serious!Jack moments. From the little clips I've seen I assume that there are some.

Then: Do we get to know where that cross on Jack's cheek comes from? *g*
And: What's the Pearl doing in that bottle?!

Date: 2011-05-11 05:55 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
The most important question is indeed: Do you think it's good? Is it really more like CotBP, as Jerry et al. said?

It’s more like CotBP in tone, but I have to say I really missed Will and Elizabeth, I loved their characters from the beginning of CotBP, in spite of Jack being so amazingly distracting, and I recall that Orlando had a huge fan base, even I liked him from the LotR movies, and Keira was just becoming well known, too, I’d seen her in Bend It Like Beckham already and I found that she had a really magnetic appeal in CotBP. Phillip and Syrena are OK, but that Wow! factor that Orlando and Keira had seems missing with those two – or at least that was my impression.

Having more of Jack – and such fabulous Jack, too – partly makes up for it, but I’m not sure this movie would inspire us like CotBP did if we didn’t already love some of the characters.

I'd also like to know whether you felt the characters ... well, were IC. *g* How does that thing with Jack and Angelica work - chemistry?

The characters are very well done, no problem with that, either in writing or acting. And the actors, writers, etc. did a great job giving Jack/Angelica a love/hate relationship. The chemistry is definitely there, IMO.

Like 0nthe0therhand I'd like to know about the serious!Jack moments. From the little clips I've seen I assume that there are some.

There are, but I can’t think of any specific ones to use as examples. All I can say is that the Jack from CotBP is back. He’s a hard man to pin down, multifaceted as he is, but he’s both very human and crazy brilliant.

Then: Do we get to know where that cross on Jack's cheek comes from? *g*

No! I’m still wondering. Or if they told us, I missed that entirely, and I was really trying to pay attention throughout. Also still wondering about the weirdly lighter hair.

And: What's the Pearl doing in that bottle?!
Highlight for Spoiler: Blackbeard has the Pearl and many more, the makings of a whole fleet, miniaturized and stored away in bottles; it’s one of his magical voodoo abilities.


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Date: 2011-05-10 06:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] the-dala.livejournal.com
Glad you had a great time! And happy belated birthday :)

I'm avoiding spoilers, but I'd just like to know from a fellow fan - was the story satisfying? I'm worried that I'm just going to spend 90% of it missing Will and Elizabeth and James...

Date: 2011-05-11 05:56 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I'm avoiding spoilers, but I'd just like to know from a fellow fan - was the story satisfying? I'm worried that I'm just going to spend 90% of it missing Will and Elizabeth and James...

I did miss Will and Elizabeth a lot. As I said above, Phillip and Syrena are just not as interesting a pair. Phillip lacks Will’s snark and passion, and Syrena is interesting, but the fact that she’s not human comes through very clearly, which is good acting, but bad as far as us being able to relate to her.

And James. Oh dear. How we miss him. I didn’t come to love him until I started reading fic, yours for example, but you and other superb writers had me convinced of his excellence pretty early on. There are no comparable characters in OST. Barbossa is the naval commander, and it’s quite hilarious to watch him pretend he’s not pure pirate. James will always, always be missed, I think.

Yet, in spite of these changes, it’s a good movie, it stands on its own very well, and it’s a lot of fun to watch. Jack carries it, he’s got more screen time than in the other movies, and he’s in top form. His chemistry with Angelica is evident, and though it will never be love’s young dream between them, there’s a lot of potential for entertaining encounters, in fic and maybe otherwise, too. Another point: Gibbs has some really interesting scenes, and I expect we’ll be seeing more of him in PotC5, which is all to the good – I doubt if there’s a PotC fan out there that doesn’t enjoy Gibbs.

Date: 2011-05-10 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] compassrose7577.livejournal.com
Good times are always that much more better with good company, and I was in double that. It was a blast!

Date: 2011-05-11 05:57 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
It really was. Thank you for helping so much to make it so!

Date: 2011-05-10 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com
There's many things I want to know, but the most I want is just to see it! Well, maybe one thing, what [livejournal.com profile] captaintish asked, are we going to get the next half-movie or is it a whole? And if so, how much sequel-promising is it?

Now I'm waiting for the photos. Tell more about the event! How was it like? :D

Date: 2011-05-11 05:58 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
There's many things I want to know, but the most I want is just to see it! Well, maybe one thing, what captaintish asked, are we going to get the next half-movie or is it a whole? And if so, how much sequel-promising is it?

It’s not half a movie, it stands alone, you don’t even have to have seen CotBP to enjoy it, I believe. There are some issues at the end that can be resolved/explored in the next movie – or they could just gloss over them and move on to something entirely new. I have to say, the Easter egg provides for some interesting speculation, and the Pearl’s fate does, too. Loved the way it ended, truly, the loose ends wrapped up, and yet not!

Date: 2011-05-10 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krystallazuli.livejournal.com
WOO HOO! I can't wait to see your pics. SOunds like it was worth it for you!!! Now I'm so jealous and can't wait to see it.

Date: 2011-05-11 05:59 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
It was fabulous fun, and well worth doing. Pix are posted, such as they are. I should've taken more.

Date: 2011-05-10 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] florencia7.livejournal.com
YAY! It's so great to hear that you had a wonderful time! :D

& Since all the interesting questions have already been asked (& I can't wait to read your answers! ^^), I'll just throw one more into the mix: Are there any references to the trilogy, Elizabeth, Will, etc. in the movie?

I can't wait for the pics!!! :)

Date: 2011-05-11 06:09 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
& Since all the interesting questions have already been asked (& I can't wait to read your answers! ^^), I'll just throw one more into the mix: Are there any references to the trilogy, Elizabeth, Will, etc. in the movie?

This was a question that [livejournal.com profile] hereswith and I were really wondering about, and I was relieved to be able to say, no, there are not. We were afraid there would be negative references (positive ones being too much to hope for, I suppose), and with none at all the movie can really stand alone. Highlight for spoiler: There is a reference by Gibbs to Jack’s propensity for rescuing damsels, and the circle of map that Jack cut out at the end of AWE is there. Other than that, nothing that I can recall – and I was really watching for that stuff, believe me.

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Date: 2011-05-10 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hendercats.livejournal.com
Yay - am still so very excited for you! *squees and bounces for (and with) you*

Date: 2011-05-11 06:00 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Yes, squeeing and bouncing for sure! Too much fun!

Date: 2011-05-10 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearlseed.livejournal.com
My baby had a good weekend!! I've spent the day today looking at the same 4 clips over and over and over and I'm in love--the palace escape is just so sweet and so Jack and I'm just high as can be cos it's my pirate...the cute scene on top of the cliff is pretty funny with both of them grousing at one another like little kids and there is a look on Angelica's face when she's dancing with Jack and he's lowered her to the deck==she's like shy and eager, a little unsure of herself...but leaning into him, ready for the next part. Also, it appears they blow up the Pearl, burn the Pearl...

WHERE IS HIS BELOVED PEARL??????@@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!! It will break my heart if something has happened to her...I mean seriously hurt my heart. I got my ticket for midnight on Thursday next...first showing at our IMAX and how is the three D--is it silly or cool? Love you madly glad you got to make the party--22000 peoples now that's a pile!

Date: 2011-05-11 06:12 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
it appears they blow up the Pearl, burn the Pearl...
No blowing up/burning of the Pearl, I assure you.

WHERE IS HIS BELOVED PEARL??????@@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!! It will break my heart if something has happened to her...I mean seriously hurt my heart.
Highlight for Spoiler: Blackbeard captured her with black voodoo magic, shrank her, and has her stored in a bottle.

I got my ticket for midnight on Thursday next...first showing at our IMAX and how is the three D--is it silly or cool?
I liked it, it works well with all the action. That escape scene in the beginning is huge fun, I loved the whole beginning of it, really, and I think you will too!.

Love you madly glad you got to make the party--22000 peoples now that's a pile!
Only 3000 got to view the movie, and 2300 of those were in the entertainment business, etc. 700 tickets were sold to the public, from what I’ve heard. It was so much fun, so glad I went!
Edited Date: 2011-05-11 06:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-11 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cbtreks.livejournal.com
I'm glad you had fun - it sounds like it was a blast! (And I'm not reading further comments just in case of accidental spoilage. :-) 10 days....)

Date: 2011-05-11 06:02 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Nothing too spoilery (real spoilers in my comments require highlighting) but yes, only ten days! Wheee!

Date: 2011-05-11 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenthegypsy.livejournal.com
Huzzah for you! YaY!!

All I want to know is....was it better than II & III? Oh please, please say yes! :D

Date: 2011-05-11 06:04 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
There were a lot of elements of DMC and AWE that I enjoyed, but as a whole, yes, this one lacks the underlying angst of the last two.

Date: 2011-05-11 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com
Did you get to see Kermit the Frog on the black carpet? *G*

(My sister was showing me the video on YouTube earlier; I posted a link to it. Kermit dressed as Jack!)

Date: 2011-05-11 06:08 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I didn't get to see many of the folks that walked the carpet, we were hustled along pretty quickly and inside the lighting wasn't great. It was sort of an either/or situation this time: either you sat outside along Main Street and saw the stars up close, or you missed most of that and saw the movie and the stars on stage when they came out to greet the audience. No Kermit, though. *g*

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Date: 2011-05-11 08:03 am (UTC)
ext_7904: (POTC-jack-dance)
From: [identity profile] porridgebird.livejournal.com
I am just tickled reading about your experiences, but your comments on the movie itself make me SO happy! I haven't been "excited" about a PotC sequel since before DMC, and I've been cautiously excited about this one for a while now (despite no James). I have actual for-real high hopes now, after your comments, and that's a good feeling. :-)

Thank you!


Date: 2011-05-11 02:22 pm (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
I do hope you enjoy it. It stands alone, but it doesn't negate the previous movies in any way, either. I think it worked very well.

Date: 2011-05-11 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilouche007.livejournal.com
i can't waite for the movie especially the kiss :)
is syrena nice?

youre so lucky to have an autographe from him !
my dream is to meet him one day

Date: 2011-05-11 02:25 pm (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Syrena is an interesting character. I wouldn't call her "nice" precisely -- the mermaids are beautiful monsters, basically, but she comes to care about Phillip, and he for her.

Date: 2011-05-12 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rpowell.livejournal.com
It's a pity that vodoun is portrayed in such a negative light, considering that the opposite happened in DMC and AWE through Tia Dalma.

Date: 2011-05-12 02:40 pm (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (Jack - On Stranger Tides)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Well, as he says in the trailer, Blackbeard is a very bad man.

Question from Willofthewisp

Date: 2011-05-12 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's amazing you went to the premiere and the pictures were awesome. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. It does look like a fun movie, even though I've been a little uneasy about seeing it. I have a question: other than the reference to the cut-out part of the map from AWE, could it just have easily taken place BEFORE COTBP? That's a difficult question, I know. I guess I find it odd that absolutely no references are made to the first trilogy, so is it like it never happened and could have just as easily happened some time before, or what? I'm sorry. Glad you liked the movie!

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Date: 2011-05-13 03:23 am (UTC)
ext_15536: Fuschias by Geek Mama (J/E - At World's End)
From: [identity profile] geekmama.livejournal.com
Take place before CotBP? Hmmm... I'll have to consider that next time I see it. I think it might at that.

I didn't feel it odd that there were no specific references. It starts off with a bang and Jack is pretty much taken up with this new adventure, too much so to do much looking back.

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